this is not really a new face in foreign policy. and actually, if you go back six or eight months, the obama team was saying don't assume that the new secretary of state will be one of two or three known names, not susan rice or john kerry, necessarily. but maybe someone new and from outside. and john kerry is certainly not a new face. in a way, it's a throwback to foreign policy of past decades. >> brown: ba kind of new ideas, or what are you referring to that he would lack in terms of experience or ideas about how to cope with current problems or future problems. >> no, he-- as a matter of experience he certainly has lots of experience. and in that sense, that is a strength for him. but i think he hasn't over the years been an originator of new kinds of policies. if you take, for example, china policy i think that he may be reluctant to react to a china which is very different from the way it was in the past. >> brown: let me bring david ignatius back. i guess it depends on what you think is needed right now, right? >> i think the